2nd Esdras Part
Two Greetings Watchers!
Well, I guess I have enough
takers who want to hear about 2nd Esdras, so I am going to proceed with the
teaching. But, let me say this. Id teach this if there were only one
listening, because thats what I do for God, teach, to awaken those who will
listen as to the lateness of the hour. And, I dont do it with vague
platitudes, and a pious voice! I use scripture, and an inquisitive nature to
build a solid case for what I teach, without shoe horning or stretching the
word. Now I know that a lot of the things I teach are away from the beaten
path of whats been the popular way to view the end times, but, there is a
major difference in what scripture say and history proves to be the case, and
what TRADITION wants us to believe. That difference is made abundantly clear
in the same scripture that created the tradition, now that the time has
arrived in history for the events of the prophecy of Daniel to be spilling out
onto the present stage.
With that came much new
knowledge as promised. But, that knowledge doesnt just jump up and bite you
on the end of the nose. Like any knowledge, you have to seek it. We can use
20/20 hindsight to look back up the trail that God left in history from where
we are and see exactly what He meant in His word about this time, now that we
are in it. Many past speculation are now seen in the light of the present,
showing that the reality is different than it was thought it might be.
I am a latter day seeker. I got
started in this to see if it were true what the Churches, which I didnt put
much stock in, were saying about the end times, and the Rapture. Rapture, a
word that I had never heard of before in my life. Antichrist, a word I had no
idea the meaning of, except as a myth. But, I had a burning desire to know the
truth of it, because in all the time I was lost, trying to find who God was, I
never lost sight of Jesus as my closest friend and confidant. I wanted more
than anything for Him to be true. So, after a Roman Catholic upbringing, clear
through university and the Jesuits, my mind refused to believe that doctrine
represented what Jesus died for. So, I went looking. For twenty years I
searched everything but the Bible.
The Bible was out, because I
had heard the snippets of the gospels at Sunday Mass, and thought that was all
there was to it. In my day, and Im 64 now, Catholics were not encouraged to
read the Bible. Learn the doctrine via their catechism was all I ever knew.
Pray to the Virgin Mary. Confess my sins to the priest, and pay a penance for
having them forgiven. And when I finally asked a Jesuit, in university, if
Jesus did the dying, why do we pray to Mary, his answer sent me packing. I
thought all Christians believed in the same things, so, at that point the
Bible was the last place to look.
And, as it turns out, it was
the last place I looked. You can imagine my surprise when I found Him there! I
had looked everywhere, except there! And then after hearing the teaching on
Daniel, I was hooked for life. Something tangible that I could do to solidify
my belief was there waiting for me. All I had to do was watch time pass over a
prophesied landscape for the sole purpose of seeing when these events start,
if I was still alive, when they did, and then follow them until it was fact,
rather than someones dream, then I would be sure, for sure!
Along the way, the revelations
caused the relationship to grow strong, and it continues to grow even stronger
today. My plan from the beginning of the adventure was that when I saw it
happen, I would tell everyone I knew. Well, I did that, and most of them
laughed. So, I watched a few more years, until it became obvious to people who
were watching as intently as I, that the events occurring in the Mideast were
early indicators headed toward the Biblically prophesied outcome of that land.
Finally in January of 1996 it was so obvious, that we began this Ministry. We
had searched all of the leading Ministries that were reaching the Church in
great numbers, and found that none of them were teaching what was happening.
In fact all were teaching the same thing. Almost like a script.
That was very confirming,
because it fit in with the cycle of time. It had become a Tradition! And Jesus
got hung on a tree for reminding the powerful that Tradition made void the
word of God! When we recognized that, we knew it was an uphill fight to get
people to listen. What was so obvious to us, was so, because we had been
watching it for 16 years, and it was routine for us. But to those who never
looked at it from that perspective before, it was something brand new.
Now our job became to just find
people who would listen long enough to look. We cant do anymore than that,
except to teach you what to look for, and why you are looking for that. Then,
God will show it to you, and you and He can work out the details of your
future together from there.
After four and a half years,
there are over 650 Watchers on this mail list, with many more who came, stayed
a while and left, and I respect everyone of you for either getting aware, or
being aware of the end times, but frankly, I dont understand, with where we
are in time, and as exciting as these times are, how so few of you are
motivated enough about it to want to learn more, and participate in keeping
this word going out to the world.
There were 15 who wrote and
said that they wanted to hear more of 2nd Esdras, and only two who wrote and
said that they didnt want to hear a teaching on what God wanted man to
leave out of the Bible, so they will just have to delete this message, because
2nd Esdras is all this message is about.
Ive said many times, I teach
for only one reason - to show that God is in control, and you can trust Him to
keep His word! This prophet, whoever wrote it, said he spoke for God, and the
test of a prophet is in what he says comes true. Lets see if Esdras was a
prophet or not.
Last class ended with these
EZRA: And He said to me, this
is the meaning of this vision that you have seen. As for the eagle that you
saw rising from the sea, it was the fourth kingdom that appeared in a vision
to your brother Daniel. But it was not explained to him as I now explain it to
you and have explained it.
Because Daniel was inquiring
about Judah, and God was going to reveal to Daniel what was going to happen to
Judah, and what would happen from that kingdom of Nebuchadnezzar through the
kingdoms that would oppress the Jews.
Ezra has a larger purpose. He
fills in some gaps. Ezra: But it was not explained to him as I now explain it
to you and have explained it. Behold a day is coming when a kingdom will rise
on the earth - (that eagle is Daniels fourth kingdom - the nondescript
beast - the legs of iron - in Nebuchadnezzars image.) and it will be more
terrible that all the kingdoms that were before it. Moreover, twelve kings
will reign over it, one after another, but the second who is to reign will
rule longer than the twelve. This is the meaning of the twelve wings that you
In the next part, we will
bridge the gap that will enable us to use Esdras to give clarification to what
is already in Gods book, and sort out a lot of nonsense.
2nd ESDRAS Part II
He says twelve kingdoms. Im
going to quickly jump across the landscape of the Roman Empire for you, so we
can identify this bird.
There was a Roman Empire that
rose to power as one head, then as you all know, in the fifth century
Constantinople became the Eastern Kingdom, as the Western Kingdom divided into
two. And, those who know your history know, that with the fall of the Emperor
at Constantinople, the Eastern Kingdom suddenly moved to Russia. As Ivan III
sets up the Kingdom in Russia, and Ivan IV becomes the Czar. Where do you
think the word Czar comes from? The one Kingdom was Caesar, it split into two
Kingdoms, then in its move to Russia it became the Czar, which is a cognate
In the ninth century, the Pope
usurped to himself the power to set up kingdoms on earth, and crowned
Charlemagne, the Holy Roman Emperor, that was to become the Austro-German
Empire, ultimately to become the Austro-Prussian Empire, to end in 1918, with
Kaiser Wilhelm, William II, the Caesar of the West. Kaiser, Czar, and in the
middle Caesar. The three headed eagle that were the divisions of the same
beast, the Roman Empire.
Now, you will begin to see that
the war of prophecy is between what is called the historicist's, who believe
that all prophecy of Daniel have been fulfilled in history with no future gap
between, and the futurists, who look over the historic fulfillments and the
law of double fulfillment in prophecy and point only to the future, and as is
always the case of most heresies in the Church, its one extreme going to
the point of error, by failing to see the other side. Its like the Rapture
argument, those that have one at the end of the tribulation, or one at the
beginning, and fail to see there are a togma, or a succession of
There is a history of
fulfillment, and there is a future fulfillment. The Roman Empire which this
three headed eagle represents becomes three headed in sequence. The central
head, Caesar, that set up a kingdom like no other before it, which splits into
a kingdom to the right, which is the Constantinople Kingdom, which moves North
to Czarist Russia, to end in that first fulfillment package with the Bolshevic
Revolution and the overthrowing the Czar in 1917.
The Western head, to the left,
Charlemagne, the new Holy Roman Empire, ultimately becomes the Austro-Prussian
Empire of the Kaisers, which ends finally in Kaiser Wilhelm. And we have the
central head Caesar in Rome, the Czar on the right, if you are looking North,
the Kaiser on left.
Now, lets look at something
else that this fellow said.
If you look at that last twelve
emperors of the Roman Empire, the Central head on this bird.
Ferdinand III was head of the
Roman German Empire. He ruled 1637 to 1658 - thats 21 years. He was
succeeded by Leopold I 1658-1705 - thats 47 years. The Third king was
Joseph I, 1705-17ll, six years.
Now, I can go down all twelve
of them, but I want you to pay particular attention to Leopold I, he reigned
47 years, and he was number two. Got that? The first one, Ferdinand III
reigned for 21 years. You can check this any where, so I am going to just
throw it at you, so we can make the point.
1. Ferdinand III reigned 21
years. 2. Leopold I reigned 47 years. 3. Joseph I reigned 6 years. 4. Charles
VI reigned 29 years 5. Charles VII reigned 3 years 6. Francis I reigned 20
years 7. Joseph II reigned 25 years 8. Leopold II reigned 2 years 9. Francis
II reigned 14 years 10. William I reigned 17 years 11. Frederick reigned 3
months 12. William II, Kaiser Whelm reigned for 30 years. 1888-1918
The closest to Leopold I, who
reigned 47 years, is the Kaiser who reigned 30 years. He out distanced every
one of them by manifold numbers of years. But, the second reigned, 17 years
longer than any of the other twelve. And, with Kaiser Wilhelm, down goes the
Holy Roman Empire, for all intents and purposes.
Well, whats this got to do
with what Im saying? Listen close. The beast you see, this three headed
eagle, is that fourth kingdom of Daniel, the Roman Empire.
A day is coming when a kingdom
will rise on the earth that is more terrible than all of them. Twelve kings
will reign over it, one after another, but the second who is to reign will
reign longer than the twelve. No body anywhere can doubt that this book was
written prior to the New Testament. It was in circulation when Jesus was
quoting the Septuagint. The only argument was if Ezra actually wrote it, about
the time they came back to rebuild the temple, or whether it was written by
some anonymous person, who claimed to be Ezra in the first century before
Christ. In either case, its written before Christ is on the scene.
He outlines with perfection,
the breaking of that Roman Empire into three, from Caesar, to Czar, to Kaiser.
He then outlines the twelve kingdoms that are to rise up, and the second is to
rule much longer than any of the other twelve.
God engraved a pretty little
foot note to tell you, like it or not, that hidden in this book is a message
that sorts out history becoming its own self vindication, because a prophet
is a prophet if what he says comes to pass. Now, if that came to pass, then
what about the last days?
The second who is going reign
is going to reign longer than the twelve, this is the meaning of the twelve
wings. As for you hearing a voice that spoke, but came not from its head
but from the middle of his body, this is the meaning. In the midst of the time
of the kingdoms no small struggles will arise, and they will be in danger of
falling, but it will not fall then but will regain its former power. As you
see eight additional wings springing from his wings, this is the meaning. For
eight kings will rise in it, whose times will be short, and whose years will
be fleeting, and two of them will fall when the middle of its time draws
near, but four will be preserved until the time of the end begins to approach,
but two will be kept until the end. Who are those two? Well see, wont
And as for seeing the three
heads resting, this is the meaning. The three heads, resting to awake as the
time of the end approaches. Communist Russia, Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany.
With the historian that God is proving to be, do you think for a minute that
He would have overlooked the evilness that would come out of the nondescript
beast, the vilest empire, as time approaches the final days. We have been
approaching these time we are in now for almost a hundred years. Thats why
there are wars and rumors of wars, pestilence, famine, earthquakes, in diverse
unknown places, men running to and fro, all the signs of the last days. And,
likewise, God left this message, and wouldnt Satan like to cover it up! Id
rather let it stand on its own two feet.
Now, lets look a these three
heads in the last days.
The Most High will raise up
three kings and they will do many things in this evil kingdom, and will
distress the earth and those who live in it, with greater oppression than all
who were before them. That is why they are called the eagles heads, for it is
they that will bring his wickedness to a head and will bring him to his end.
Now as youve seen a greater head disappear, one of them will die in his
bed, but in torment.
In 1943, Italy would have
surrendered, but the Axis Nations wouldnt let them. And, Italy had to die
in its bed, in its own homeland as it was ravaged by war, with its
Fascist leader killed by his own people, who also ravaged his body. We have
watched the right head swallow up the left head. Leaving two heads. As evil
Communist Russia, swallows up most of Germany, and is swept down into that
which Ive skipped over, the kingdoms of the eight wings. And the stage is
set, for a confrontation between the lion and her offspring.
The lion that you saw rise
roaring out of the forest and speaking to the eagle, and rebuking him for his
unrighteousness, and would charge him with ungodliness and rebuke him for
wickedness. This is the anointed, which the Highest hath kept for them and for
their wickedness unto the end: he shall reprove them, and shall upbraid them
with their cruelty. The Eagle, what happens to him at the end. I looked and
behold the head, and then the body, the head and the wings, and then the whole
body of the eagle was burned, and the earth was panic stricken.
The point I make today, is that
there is available in the scriptures, books that were available and used by
Jesus and by Paul. There is available in the books, that were originally in
the King James when it was translated, a record of history, which if outlined
will trace the Roman Empire, that fourth beast of Daniel through the Nazi, the
Fascist and the Communist, evil outgrowth head, to the final conquering of
that miserable bird that has become one with those two little wings that I
have yet skipped over, that will be destroyed by the lion and their young
lions, as the British Empire and its allies, conquered those evil forces in
both world wars, who ultimately will be destroyed in a war led by the Lion of
the tribe of Judah which brings me in Ezra, to the next chapter which we
Thank you for listening and
God bless all of you.
Your Brother in Christ
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